Snape's Mysterious Mission

[nadirah]

Hi, this is my first (well, actually, fourth) attempt to post a theory, and it have gone unanswered in Cinescape. (Of course you can only imagine how disappointed I was, ah well) Anyway, this theory has been brought up a few times—and I’m sorry if this is “history repeating itself or something”. I've posted this theory in OotP, and mrspotter00 posted a similar theory about this on Cinescape (titled "Snape's Espionage") in book 5 forum. I just want to see what you guys thought of this. I would post this one in the "Rumours" thread in this boards, but I think Snape deserves a new thread. ;D

Anyway, I know you all must be familiar with the theory that Snape is a vampire—ah, yes, very interesting, you say. Well, using marvolo and petunialives’ topics, I’ve gathered a few interesting points.  You all know that JK often describes Snape as pale, with greasy black hair and a hooked nose. A more specific description is “a teacher with greasy black hair, a hooked nose, and sallow skin." Sallow means a sickly yellowish hue or complexion.

JK gives more descriptions about Snape and almost all of them are the same. Some might argue: “But Snape have shadows in the movie!” Why would JK or the producer waste (there’s no other way of putting it) money on a subtle hint that people wouldn’t probably notice?  <br>
Harry also thought that Snape have an ability to read minds—and Snape seems to know that there’s someone else with him when he was threatening Quirrell (in book 1) and in the movie he tried to “grab” whoever it is (who is Harry under his invisibility cloak). Although there is the part that Harry breathes quite heavily in the movie.

Now these are quotes that might suggest Snape is a vampire:

Bk4, pg 426 "Keep walking, then!" Snape snarled, and he brushed past them, his long black cloak billowing out behind them."

Prisoner of Azkaban pg. 429  <br>"Wonder what they'll give us next year?" said Seamus Finnigan gloomily.  <br>"Maybe a vampire," suggested Dean Thomas hopefully."
- Hmmm, a little foreshadowing, perhaps? Are they going to have Snape as the next DADA teacher in book 6 or 7?

Prisoner of Azkaban, p.429-430, American edition-
A muscle twitched unpleasantly at the corner of Snape's thin mouth every time he looked at Harry, and he was constantly flexing his fingers, as though itching to place them around Harry's throat.
- Very interesting... very scary too.

Also, did you guys remember that Quirrell's turban smells of garlic? Well, assuming that it is, then it may be done to keep Snape off him, as both of them are on a warpath in SS.

Now, I also have another evidence—the most foretelling (or foreshadowing) hint that JKR gave us in book 1, when Harry faced Quirrell (when Harry discovers that Quirrell’s actually e-v-i-l). This is an exact quote (or paragraph) from book 1, and it’s thanks to marvolo’s fantastic thread that I got it!

Book 1, pg.288.
Quirrell was talking in the… whatever it is (a chamber?). "..I wondered whether I'd be meeting you here, Potter."
"But I thought - Snape - "
"Severus?" Quirrell laughed. "Yes, Severus does seem the type, doesn't he? So useful to have him swooping around like an overgrown bat. Next to him, who would suspect p-p-poor, st-stuttering P-Professor Quirrell?"

That’s a good quote, wasn’t it? Well, this brings me to my next point: you know that vampires could turn into bats, right? Well, maybe it’s just a simile, but rather an unlikely simile, right? JK (or Quirrell) could’ve used another simile to the same effect, but no, they just have to say “overgrown bat”.  <br>
My next point please: There are rumors going around in Cinescape that Snape is going to go back to Voldemort, take the Polyjuice Potions and take his position as Crouch Jr. to spy for Dumbledore. Okay, what I think is that Snape is going to transform into a bat and secretly spy on Voldemort. This is a really effective way, required that Snape’s not supposed to be seen or Voldemort might be suspicious as to why “that overgrown bat kept following him around”.  <br>
That was long. Oh yes, you can go here (http://messageboard.cinescape.com/harrypotter/ubb/Archives/Archive-000002/HTML/20010809-23-000089.htmlhere) for marvolo’s marvelous—pardon the pun—topic. And for the newest topic (petunialives started this new thread), you could go here (http://messageboard.cinescape.com/harrypotter/ubb/Forum23/HTML/002171.html) Oh, how could I forget? A special thanks to mrspotter00, who thought up of this first! I think she will most likely post a similar topic to this one on Cinescape, but since I posted this one here already...

Any thoughts?  <br>

[Ameria]

ANOTHER SLAYERS FAN!  ::glomps nadirah::   ;D ;D ;D

Hm...  I don't see anything there that really says to me: "Snape may actually be a vampire."  I think that Snape is very stereotypically Vampire-like, but that is just part of his overall lugubrious character.  He's supposed to be dark and creepy and icky looking; and many of the ways to describe that correspond with the ways to describe stereotypical Vampires.  I think that is more likely than him actually being a Vampire.  

It is an interesting and well thought-out theory, though.

-Ameria

[nadirah]

*is glomped and well glad of it* Woohoo! I'm glad that there's another Slayers fan here too! And you like HP too. ;D I'm glad! I couldn't find anyone who likes Slayers on HP message board, ut ;D *glomps her back* Muk, muk!

[Ameria]

I was pondering the theory today, and something struck me...  The Snape is a Vampire theory rings of the old Lina is the Knight of the Lord of Nightmares theory.  This isn't true, but one could argue for it.  But...sometimes in fantasy a human is just a human!

RON: No way, Snape CAN'T be human!

-Ameria

[beax]

Snape, a vampire? I wonder what the Snape Sisters think of this theory......

I remember reading another topic like this on Cinescape, but I can't remember what is was called.

[nadirah]

Lol, there is a topic like this on Cinescape that gave me this idea, and we sort of posted it at the same time I posted it at OotP (another HP MB). I think it's called "Snape's Espionage" or something like that. ^_^ Mine is on another boards, and this is my post on the other board (thought I'd bring it here to see other people's take on it), pretty different from hers.

Anyway, yeah, Snape just can't be human. Why not? Being a vampire actually gave him lots of advantages. (PS: Lina being LoN? Uh... okay. Hard to see, but that would be cool. ;D Gold Lina)

[Ameria]

How does that mean Snape can't be human?

(And I wasn't saying Lina being LoN, I was talking about the old (false) rumor that she's the KNIGHT of LoN, like her sister is knight of Suifeed.)

-Ameria

[nadirah]

Well, think about it, once Harry had wondered how Snape got to a place so fast, and he said something to the effect of, "Unless he's a bat or something, it's impossible". And Snape's almost always stays in the dungeons and he teaches in there too. The fact that Professor Quirrell had the smell of garlic in his turban makes it more suspicious - we already know that Quirrel is "scared" of Snape, so he tries to keep Snape at arm's length.

(Oops, ehehehe, I guess it's a temporary brain failure. ^_^; Anyway, it's plausible, but it's not going to happen - if she is, she would've been told that by Luna earlier, wouldn't she? Oh well)

[Ameria]

Snape didn't have any problem getting near Quirrell to interrogate him, though.  As for Snape appearing in a place so quickly, I think that's just more of an attempt in writing to make Snape look less human and more creepy.  Snape being a vampire would just be too much.  I think he's just a freaky human.

-Ameria

[nadirah]

Yes, I noticed that he doesn't have any problems, so what I'm trying to say is that perhaps he's concocted a potion (since he's so good at it ;D ) that would able him to...uh, "get rid" of the usual vampire's quality or something. (Not able to walk under the sun, allergic to garlic)

[slyraven]

Quite interesting.
I'm not sure if Jk wants vampires to exist in the books. Wouldn't Ron have mentioned SOMETHING about them by now?
I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

[anonymous annonymous]

Yes, I believe Snape is half vampire but not a full one. HE can walk in daylight. He may also have to go back to spying...

[nadirah]

Hmm, Slyraven, I'm not sure at what you're implying here. What do you mean, Ron's sure to mention it? Does Ron mention that Moody is a fake Moody before we realize he is indeed the fake Moody? Why would Ron have anything to do with it? ;;

[Jaheira]

'Prisoner of Azkaban pg. 429   <br>"Wonder what they'll give us next year?" said Seamus Finnigan gloomily.   <br>"Maybe a vampire," suggested Dean Thomas hopefully."  <br>- Hmmm, a little foreshadowing, perhaps? Are they going to have Snape as the next DADA teacher in book 6 or 7?'

What a little bit of fortune telling like what Shakespeare often did throughout Romeo and Juliet.

'Bk4, pg 426 "Keep walking, then!" Snape snarled, and he brushed past them, his long black cloak billowing out behind them."'
 <br>What's that got to do with being a vampire?

'Prisoner of Azkaban, p.429-430, American edition-  <br>A muscle twitched unpleasantly at the corner of Snape's thin mouth every time he looked at Harry, and he was constantly flexing his fingers, as though itching to place them around Harry's throat.

- Very interesting... very scary too. '
Are you suggesting he's thinking about biting Harry?  I thought it was just the typical hating him so much that he wanted to strangle him, no big deal.  The mouth would twitch at the nasty thought.  I know that I've wanted to do that to my sister a few times.

'Also, did you guys remember that Quirrell's turban smells of garlic? Well, assuming that it is, then it may be done to keep Snape off him, as both of them are on a warpath in SS. '

That obviously didn't work then did it.

'Harry also thought that Snape have an ability to read minds—and Snape seems to know that there’s someone else with him when he was threatening Quirrell (in book 1) and in the movie he tried to “grab” whoever it is (who is Harry under his invisibility cloak). Although there is the part that Harry breathes quite heavily in the movie. '

That's normal.

'Well, think about it, once Harry had wondered how Snape got to a place so fast, and he said something to the effect of, "Unless he's a bat or something, it's impossible". And Snape's almost always stays in the dungeons and he teaches in there too.'

Filch was known for getting to a place quite fast.  Wasn't it something to do with secret passageways.

'Book 1, pg.288.  <br>Quirrell was talking in the… whatever it is (a chamber?). "..I wondered whether I'd be meeting you here, Potter."  <br>"But I thought - Snape - "  <br>"Severus?" Quirrell laughed. "Yes, Severus does seem the type, doesn't he? So useful to have him swooping around like an overgrown bat. Next to him, who would suspect p-p-poor, st-stuttering P-Professor Quirrell?" '

As for this one, I don't have much to say for it.  I actually laughed about this quote when I read it.  He is a bit like the human version of a bat though. ;D

But here's my opinion on it.  With all those references to bats and little hints it's almost as if she trying to make seem as though he is, just so she can put yet another twist to the story.  Anyway, I'm going to stay nuetral in the matter, I refuse to be baited so easily. ;D







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[Jaheira]

I've got something else, I couldn't put it in the cinescape topic so I will put it here.

Go to this link:
www.i2k.com/~svderark/lexicon/bestiary_t-z.html#vampire

It has a list of points on stuff about vampires and the second last one says:
"Vampires are studied in Defense Against Dark Arts (CS10), but are not considered Wizards."

Don't you think that's a good argument against the idea of Snape being a vampire.


And the suggestion also raises the question of Undead...  Somehow I doubt Snape would be undead unless this is a different version of what is known about vampires.